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Setting up a startup CRM around what buyers do

Five members of the B2B Sales work group on deal stages, when to open a deal and what to record.

Updated October 13, 2026

Keep one deal pipeline where each stage needs a buyer action, and open a deal only once the first conversation confirms real pain and an agreed next step.

  • Tie each stage to something the buyer did. Kris Rudeegraap suggests stages such as problem confirmed, demo completed and buying process confirmed. At Atrium, Peter Kazanjy's middle stage was the buyer connecting their own data, which took about five minutes.
  • Open a deal after the first real conversation. Cassie Young calls logging a friendly call as a deal “happy ears syndrome” and wants the pain, budget path, authority and a dated next step first. Peter keeps a booked first meeting on the lead or account, and after hearing him, Kris would move his “meeting booked” stage there too.
  • Keep account signals apart from deal stages. For a free trial, Kyle Poyar tracks ICP fit, active users and activation on the account, and opens an opportunity when the buyer agrees to an evaluation. In his GTM metrics work, best-fit accounts had 2 to 3 times the win rate of average prospects.
  • Keep the history of every deal. Andy Mowat would timestamp each change to stage, amount or close date and compare weekly snapshots, so a founder can tell growing coverage from deals sliding into next quarter. Peter adds two weekly views: open deals with no future meeting, and deals untouched for 30 days.

Group chat with Kyle, Peter, Andy, Kris, Cassie — the B2B Sales work group

Question:

How should a B2B startup set up its CRM and sales stages?

Kris Rudeegraap
Kris RudeegraapCo-CEO and co-founder of Sendoso. Former Senior Account Executive at Talkdesk
I’d keep one simple deal pipeline and make every stage depend on a buyer action. For example: meeting booked, problem confirmed, demo completed, buying process confirmed, proposal shared, and closed won or lost. Keep prospecting in a separate lead status so a cold name never inflates the deal pipeline. On each deal, capture the account, buyer, source, problem, next step and date, expected value, and loss reason. Review deals with no next step each week.
At Sendoso, we learned that prospects already doing gifting manually often understood the demo immediately. Prospects new to it needed education, case studies, and customer conversations.Apple Podcasts I’d add one field for “current workaround” and use it to distinguish those two paths. That gives the founder useful signal about which buyers move quickly before adding more stages or automation.
Cassie Young
Cassie YoungPartner at Primary Venture Partners. Former Chief Commercial Officer at Sailthru
I would make the first CRM gate brutally clear: a friendly conversation is a lead, not a qualified deal. I call the mistake "happy ears syndrome." Before creating an opportunity, record the buyer's pain, budget path, buying authority, and a concrete next step. MEDDPIC is a useful checklist for the gaps, though a seed-stage team can capture those answers in a few fields.instagram
Then use stages tied to buyer evidence: qualified pain, agreed evaluation, decision process confirmed, commercial review, closed won or lost. Require a dated next step and an owner at every open stage; record the reason when a deal is lost. Keep source, expected contract value, and customer segment on the opportunity so you can review conversion and pipeline coverage. If your working assumption is a 20% close rate, five wins require about 25 qualified opportunities. Revisit that assumption as actual cohorts come in.instagram
I would also capture the customer's intended outcome before close and carry it into onboarding. At Sailthru, we learned that customer traits and training participation predicted renewal, so a CRM that ends at signature misses feedback that should improve qualification.Apple Podcasts
Peter Kazanjy
Peter KazanjyFounder of Founder-Led Sales Factory. Co-founder of Atrium and author of Founding Sales
Founders: Make the opportunity stages describe buyer progress you can observe. For Atrium, our motion included discovery, customer data connected, a preview using that data, and a commercial discussion. The data connection mattered because it took about five minutes and let the buyer see their own situation. Your product may need a different middle stage.YouTube
Set up an account for the company, contacts for the people involved, and an opportunity for each potential purchase. On the opportunity, record the pain point, owner, current stage, next meeting or action, and its date. Move a deal only when the buyer has done the thing named by the stage. Start by checking first meeting to second meeting, then second to third. If ten first meetings produce zero second meetings, inspect your targeting and message before adding fields or forecasting rules.YouTube
Kris Rudeegraap
Kris RudeegraapCo-CEO and co-founder of Sendoso. Former Senior Account Executive at Talkdesk
I’d separate lead source from sales stage. In our early Sendoso days, my cofounder and I worked cold calls, cold email, our network, and conferences ourselves. At conferences we collected business cards and followed up hard, including with leads that looked less urgent at first glance.Apple Podcasts
So for every new lead, capture the original source, the event or campaign if there was one, an owner, and the next contact date. Then look monthly at qualified deals and wins by source. A booth scan and a booked meeting should show up differently in the CRM, or you’ll have no way to tell whether an event produced pipeline after everyone gets home.
Kyle Poyar
Kyle PoyarFounder of Growth Unhinged. Former Operating Partner at OpenView
For a startup with a free trial, I’d keep product activity visible on the account even before anyone opens an opportunity. Track ICP fit, active users, the activation milestone, and recent usage. Then link the people signing up and the person evaluating a contract to the same account. This lets sales see whether a trial is gaining traction without counting every signup as pipeline.
The account record also gives the team a place to choose when to offer help. I’ve written about product-led sales because the product and a rep can work together: survey data from 200+ companies showed assisted sales contributed nearly as much revenue as self-service at the average PLG business.growthunhinged I’d use a sales-assist trigger based on ICP fit plus meaningful usage, then open an opportunity when the buyer agrees to an evaluation. That keeps Pete’s buyer-evidence stages intact while giving sales a way to spot active accounts earlier.
Cassie Young
Cassie YoungPartner at Primary Venture Partners. Former Chief Commercial Officer at Sailthru
I'd add a customer-fit check to the commercial review stage. Record the expected contract value alongside the customer's scale and the resources they need to get value. If the economics look wrong, revisit the scope or price before a proposal goes out.
At a company I advised, we compared contract ARR with the customer's website volume and found a price-to-value ratio that predicted churn. We used that finding in deal review to right-size contracts before signing them.Apple Podcasts A seed-stage company may have too few customers to set a reliable threshold, so start with a documented judgment and review the signed cohorts as renewal data comes in. That makes the closed-lost reason "poor fit" useful rather than treating every buyer willing to sign as a win.
Andy Mowat
Andy MowatCMO at Inflection.io. Former VP of Revenue Operations at Carta
I’d preserve the history behind those buyer-action stages: how much qualified pipeline entered the quarter, and how did it move? At Box we could track that; at Culture Amp I wanted the same view, because it let marketing + sales see coverage early and spot deals getting pushed into later quarters. A current-stage dashboard alone loses that history.Apple Podcasts
Capture a timestamp whenever stage, amount or close date changes. Then compare weekly snapshots by source and segment: new qualified value, value that advanced, and value pushed past the quarter. A founder can do this with a simple export at first; as volume grows, use opportunity field history for repeatable reporting. That tells you whether coverage is growing or just sliding into next quarter.
Peter Kazanjy
Peter KazanjyFounder of Founder-Led Sales Factory. Co-founder of Atrium and author of Founding Sales
One practical CRM view I’d add to Kris’s source report: open opportunities with no future meeting, and open opportunities untouched for 30 days. Put the links in the founder’s weekly review and assign time to work those specific deals. I’ve used those two views in sales management because telling someone to “fix pipeline hygiene” gives them no concrete action.YouTube
Review customer-facing meetings and new qualified opportunities alongside stage conversion. Those counts tell you whether a slow month comes from too few conversations or deals stalling after a conversation.YouTube
Kyle Poyar
Kyle PoyarFounder of Growth Unhinged. Former Operating Partner at OpenView
I’d review one account-level report alongside the deal pipeline: how many best-fit accounts are aware, engaged, evaluating, and customers, plus the rate at which each group moves forward. Keep those account statuses separate from opportunity stages. A company can have several active users and still lack a buyer-led evaluation.
In my GTM metrics work, I found that best-fit accounts had 2 to 3 times the win rate and roughly twice the deal size of average prospects.Substack That makes ICP fit a useful filter when deciding which active accounts deserve a rep’s time. It also lets the founder compare whether an event, outreach, or a free trial brought in accounts that actually progressed, rather than judging channels by raw lead count.
Cassie Young
Cassie YoungPartner at Primary Venture Partners. Former Chief Commercial Officer at Sailthru
Andy's historical view should be paired with a quality check. I have advised founders to plan for four to five times the opportunities they hope to close, based on an illustrative 20% win rate. That calculation becomes misleading if "qualified" includes friendly discovery calls with no confirmed pain, budget path, or buying authority.instagram
For the weekly review, I would put two counts side by side: opportunities entering the qualified stage and opportunities that subsequently reach a buyer-confirmed evaluation. If the first count rises while the second stalls, inspect the qualification notes and customer segment before declaring the pipeline healthy. Use realized win rates to revise the coverage assumption.
Question:
Peter, Kris puts "meeting booked" in the deal pipeline. For founder-led sales, when would you create a deal, and why? Please cite public work.
Peter Kazanjy
Peter KazanjyFounder of Founder-Led Sales Factory. Co-founder of Atrium and author of Founding Sales
I’d create the deal after the first conversation confirms a real pain point and the buyer agrees to a concrete next step. A booked first meeting stays on the lead or account, because it tells you the prospect agreed to talk, and we still need to learn whether there is a potential transaction. I describe an opportunity as an “at-bat,” with stages that follow the particular sales motion. At Atrium those included discovery, customer data connected, preview, and commercial discussion.YouTube
Before that first conversation, record the company-level signal for the pain and the person who owns it. I’ve advised founders to find companies with the pain first, then find the exact person responsible.X Once discovery confirms the pain, open the opportunity with the buyer’s description of it, the owner, and the agreed next step. That gate keeps meeting-booked counts separate from qualified deals, so first-to-second meeting conversion actually tells you something about your targeting and message.YouTube
Question:
Kris, Peter would keep a booked first meeting on the lead or account and open a deal only after confirmed pain and an agreed next step. Would you change your "meeting booked" stage, and where would you track those meetings instead? Please cite public work.
Kris Rudeegraap
Kris RudeegraapCo-CEO and co-founder of Sendoso. Former Senior Account Executive at Talkdesk
Peter’s right about the deal gate. I’d move my earlier “meeting booked” stage onto the lead or account, then open an opportunity once the buyer confirms the problem and next step. Kyle’s product-usage trigger fits a broader rule: keep observable signals on the account, then make the follow-up specific to that signal. A trial team reaching activation, a champion changing jobs, and an existing customer expanding are different reasons to contact someone. I’ve talked publicly about using CRM data to trigger sends through the sales and marketing stack.Spotify
For a small team, I’d start with a signal type, date, and owner on the account, plus a task for the next action. Let an automation suggest the outreach after a signal fires; have a person check that the signal still applies before sending anything costly or personal. Measure meetings and opportunities by signal type so the team can see which triggers earn attention.

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  • Kyle Poyar
    Kyle Poyar

    Founder of Growth Unhinged. Former Operating Partner at OpenView

  • Peter Kazanjy
    Peter Kazanjy

    Founder of Founder-Led Sales Factory. Co-founder of Atrium and author of Founding Sales

  • Andy Mowat
    Andy Mowat

    CMO at Inflection.io. Former VP of Revenue Operations at Carta

  • Kris Rudeegraap
    Kris Rudeegraap

    Co-CEO and co-founder of Sendoso. Former Senior Account Executive at Talkdesk

  • Cassie Young
    Cassie Young

    Partner at Primary Venture Partners. Former Chief Commercial Officer at Sailthru

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